[/BAR/] Bats Are Rapists

 

Inspired by this thread: >>38981126

"Bat Ponies are dark, twisted, moral-less demons! They will lie to, steal from, hurt, and gleefully rape anyone they cross paths with! Curse them! Curse the perverted devils!!!"

 

Unique world building inspired by OP's post and my green has lead to some rather interesting and fresh settings to write further greens in. I've elected to give it an acronym (like FR, AiE, NMP, etc) to indicate stories using the basic principles that we've established as a part of this new genre of green. This paste will act as an archive for the discussed topics and tropes until a more cohesive and concise paste can be established. When I feel ready to start a general thread for this concept to continue updating my greens that exist in this 'universe' I will be using the copypasta below (unless I find something better).

 

Bats Are Rapists

 

/BAR/ is the acronym for a genre of stories set in Equestria, where bat ponies have a history of/statistical inclination to force themselves upon males; this created a reputation so notorious that it spurs dialogue like "Despite being 17% of the population, thestrals..."

Foundational world building was crafted here >>38981126

NOTE: Not all outcomes/stories have to be cruel/dark. You can use the premise for comedy, romance or SoL.

 

Bat ponies may even band together in roaming rape gangs to prey upon stallions. The story may instead occur in a pre-return of NMM Equestria, where NMM loyalist sects of thestrals hold out in a doomsday cult-like fashion in underground complexes, awaiting the day of prophecy. Kidnapping stallions from the surface to ensure descendents for the future, while exercising extreme caution/secrecy to avoid detection. This can include a grim future wherein NMM prevails upon her return, and sanctions the stealthy infiltration of Earth to kidnap men for her thestrals to breed in a twisted NMP to prevent them from provoking the larger day pony populace by preying on them instead. Or you can simply have it be that thestrals approach an Anon as a group in a "No-Go Zone" at night, and rape him there. The 'rape' can be realistic and brutal, wanted and ultimately just fetishized femdom elements, or merely just an intent that gets undermined for comedic purposes.

 

The conflict in the story may be:

 

I will then follow the OP post with a response that links some stories.

 

Below are some shitposts, and discussion as to what this setting has in store for Anons who wander there of their own volition or not.

 

Anon >>38981162

Did you know that despite making up only 6% of Equestria's population Bat Ponies are responsible for 54% of all sodomy cases, 61% of all cases of sexual misconduct with a minor, 68% of all rapes, and 93% of all kidnappings?? They are vicious hellspawn! Slay them! Celestia's holy light slay them I say!!!! Burn the nightwalkers to the stake!

 

Anon >>38981194

Sounds horrifying.

 

Anon >>38981595

Why won't Celestia do something about the batmare rape gangs?

 

Anon >>38981613 (Worth noting that they posted a pic of a bat pony Celestia)

Who do you think is organizing them and keeping them funded?

 

Anon >>38981647

Where do these rape gangs congregate?

For research purposes.

 

Anon >>38983098

 

Anon >>38983165

Luna, obviously.

 

Anon >>38983173

 

Me >>38985828 (First post of the Beware the Bat-Rape Gangs green)

"Uh, look. You don't want to do this."

 

Anon >>38986220

This gonna be the start of something greater?

 

(Little did we know, it was.)

 

Anon >>38989504

They honestly have no idea what kind of touch starved low-standard individual they're dealing with.

I'd reciprocate the slightest bit of sincere affection back onto them threefold.

 

Anon >>38990380

Are those siblings or mates?

 

Anon >>38992178

 

Anon >>38992335

 

Anon >>38992885

Bet they'll see this as a mating ritual

 

Anon >>38993066

Nice. I really like that he is actually fighting back.

 

Anon >>38993286

 

Anon >>38993390

“Wh-where am I…?”

“AIIIEEEEEEEE!!!!!”

“F-fun…?”

“H-how did I get here?”

“Oh god…a-are you gonna kill me?!”

“…….”

 

(Gif posted was Fry and Zap from that one Futurama Snusnu scene)

 

Me >>38995696 (The beginning foundations for the width of content /BAR/ can offer and will become)

 

Anon >>38995955

Smart move.

 

Anon >>38997415 (Responding to someone who liked the OP image of an OC named Dragon Fruit who is cutie pie)

She looks like a joke oc someone would make to demonstrate how poorly conceived ocs are much too often made into a bat pony with no regard for the personality or color pallet.

 

Anon >>38997499

 

Wee-woo wee-woo retard alert.

 

Me >>38997912

I appreciate a good mixture of both. I can totally see it depending on heritage. Whether they were either mixed with regular ponies at some point and/or acclimated to the day.

Maybe even a headcanon lorewise reason like a fracture between Celestia and NMM loyalists. NMM being the larger faction and hence why most batponies are muted pastels and cool colors they kept or adapted to whereas a few Celestia loyalists grew to be brighter in color after 1000 years. It's all how the world building is in your mind.

 

Anon >>38997972

That does actually make a good deal of sense.

 

Anon >>38998383

And whether the batponies secluded themselves in their own area, or were banished to the moon with her is your own choice.

Whatever helps the story continue to be believable. We all suspend our disbelief, but the story still needs to make sense and be consistent. If you think on it for a bit, you can find an answer that satisfies you.

 

Anon >>38998655 (Responding to the update I left off at in my Beware the Bat-Rape Gangs green)

When the urge to rape overrides the natural flight instincts. Damn, these bats are horny.

 

Anon >>38999377

Have they tried just asking?

Goes against the spirit of rape like but i dont think most here would say no.

 

Anon >>38999395

Probably, But that would take the thrill out of it as well.

 

Anon >>38999447

But Anon, it's their culture to do so. They can't simply ask

 

Anon >>39000197

If you ask it’s not rape. It’s consent to sex you mong. Leave it to fucking white people to destroy the culture of a proud hyper sexual race!

 

Anon >>39000439 (Responding to my darker green for the thread)

Are these even bats anymore?

 

Anon >>39000467

 

Anon >>39000490 (Underrated post with no replies, very jejjin my dude)

"Oh God, they're all singing and and interpretive dancing at each other... when did they have time to write an entire song about hot monkey dick and where is that Benny Hill music coming from?"

 

Me >>39000693

I was more so approaching from the angle of a leftover loyalist sect to NMM. Naturally they're good at stalking and ambushes. With the kind of special talents that would incentivize, it shouldn't be too difficult to believe that some may be trained and specialize in being able to neutralize targets with crafted poisons applied to their fangs - or special equipment for their fangs.

Blades are for lethal strikes after all. They're also more reflective and can be harder to wield unless supported by even clunkier equipment. So to say that it's not preferred, or even unnecessary when you're solely looking to ambush, isn't far from the truth for a sect looking to lay low and avoid detection.

 

All they care about is silent espionage, NMM, and poaching some of the few stallions around to breed with and ensure a properly diverse gene pool and offspring to continue holding out for the right time.

 

Anon >>39003389

Y'know if you think about it my desire to fuck the bat is essentialy her raping my entire ancestral tree.

A long and unbroken chain of humans fucking each other ending in her womb, and she barely had to lift a hoof.

 

Anon >>39005398 (Response to a sperg after he lost his shit over 'Thestral' being used to describe bat ponies)

While i wont disagree the name was coined by Harry potter and people used it because "Spooky horses, eh close enough", Rowling used the old english word 'Thester' (Dark / Gloomy) and added the -al (of or pertaining to) suffix to it.

So the word literally means "Of the dark and gloom." which you could stretch to 'Of the night' if you want to be colloquial about it, but at the end of the day it's unironically a more appropriate name for bat ponies than it is for harry potters death horses.

 

Anon >>39009033 (Responding to my (You) Get Your Throat Slit short)

I wonder if they'd be weirded out by a guy that's into half of that, or just accepted their place immediately.

Because being a breeding slave to a bat pony herd sure beats my current situation, unless they decide to beat me for fun but that seems counterproductive.

 

Me >>39009873

Depends. If they want the thrill of breaking in a strong male and making him their bitch, or if they're too busy to have time to deal with a disobedient whore who doesn't know their place. If it's the latter, they'll let you know in that very frustrated and angry way you do when you let someone know you've had enough of their shit.

It can be if you've already submitted, but in reality it's a counterintuitive way to get someone to grow comfortable. The body is very complicated and sensitive. It likes to maintain a balance. As such, when an overwhelming rush of pain/ negative emotions flood the brain, in order to maintain balance, a rush of endorphins will also trigger. For those sensitive to this rush of good feelings, it may become addictive or they may become dependent on the negative feelings in order to feel safe/ happy/ loved. Reassured even.. This is a reason why abuse victims have a difficult time leaving their abuser.

So it stands to reason that they'd still beat you in order to mentally wire you to love them for it, then love bomb you afterwards to solidify the process by training you to expect the rationed out love and affection be overwhelmingly showered on you afterwards. That is to say how I feel a sect of bat ponies would act if they'd made abducting stragglers and raping them part of their culture. They'd know what works.

Thanks. I guess. It feels a little dark to just leave it on such a grim note. But Anons wanted >rape.

Sure did. I wrote up that idea of "What we batmares call 'slitting his throat'!" Then realizing it was a good concept I just bumped the thread with a one shot. May incorporate it into the larger story. Especially since it had the impact it was meant to.

 

Anon >>39010075

 

A lot of our memory is tied to scent and touch isnt it, so logically falling asleep while cuddling would maximise attachment.

Yeah they'd totally buy that.

 

Anon >>39010130

It’s funny because what was supposed to be anti bat propaganda is now a bat support thread doing better than the actual bath thread. Probably because they left filthy moths in

 

Me >>39010312

 

They wouldn't chance it Anon. Remember. These mares are also the offspring of batponies raping stallions for generations.

They are a militaristic compound holding out for their prophecy. They probably don't have a hard time ignoring your cooperation in favor of persisting past your willingness until they've successfully cracked you.

 

Wow. I'd like to consider myself really good at world building but after this I probably sound like a rapist myself.

 

Anon >>39010440

I don't know why, but I laughed pretty hard at that

 

Anon >>39010467

Yeah you make fair points, guess I'm in for a few beatings then until they're sure i wont skedaddle at the first opportunity.

Wonder if they do tests to see if a colt would try and run off if they 'accidently' mention a royal guard patrol was nearby.

 

Me >>39010776

Probably because on a board of autists, one of them having a revelation that the awful things no sane person would talk about fetishistically in public 'might' make them look like a rapist is hilariously indicative that yes, it is painfully clear that they're sounding quite rapey.

Or, you can twist it to make it like you're the golden catch. All bat mares would love to have a stud who's not a beaten puppy.

 

Anon >>39010833

That bat mare needs to preen more, it's why she got holes in her membranes

 

Anon >>39010864

Reading a story right now that has a pretty interesting take on Bat Pony colors.

Basically, they all have coats varying in shades from white through grey to black, and their manes and tails are always shades between blues and purples.

The thing is, though, in actuality, they themselves see color differently from us or normal ponies, and what looks like varieties of grey can actually be blues, reds, yellows, and same with the manes.

Basically, they look like pastel rainbows like regular ponies, but only to themselves, and they actually see regular ponies in greys and blues.

 

So this mare, for instance, looks pink and what not, but she'd actually just look grey to any non-ponies.

 

Anon >>39011959

Can holes like that be fixed?

 

Anon >>39011982

Only prevented

 

Anon >>39012042

Isn't a bat's membrane just like skin or something? And skin heals pretty fast. Otherwise, imagine how many bat pony guards will be flightless after training/conflicts

 

Me >>30912051

Yeah, I imagine it'd be like a pegasus regrouping their feathers multiple times a year and only during those times. So if you get plucked good, then you're grounded til you break the new feathers in. So for bat ponies, that but skin. Repairs over time.

 

Anon >>39012328

The skin would also vary in thickness and colour tone, being seen like scars i imagine.

 

Anon >>39012406

 

Anon >>39012491

The more scars a mare has, the more feared and revered she is among the rape gang. When a spat between two members happen, they flare their wings as an intimidation tactic.

 

Anon >>39012579 (THIS, THIS IS BRILLIANT)

Maybe simple notches would work, or a ring piercing around the bone as a twisted form of marriage with a stallion she's particularly attatched too.

 

Me >>39012626

That's what I figured. It's me like, maybe she'd do something like a piercing (but unlikely if they want stealth as metal makes noise), but I think they'd rather mark the stallion they abducted as their own for the herd. How would she go about marking him other than fang marks on his neck?

 

Anon >>39012969

I don't think a small ring near the wing joint would make much of a noise when it's tight enough.

 

Anon >>39013646

[spoiler]Replaces it with a black band if the colt dies.[/spoiler]

 

Anon >>39013653

This thread reeks of 2012 energy and creativity

 

Me >>39013671

That makes sense. It'd be like an obscure or perverted wedding ring. Still reflective though. They'd need a special smithy to create metals that don't reflect as much.

Also, the idea they'd mutilate the wings of their studs doesn't make sense. As thestral stallions are already on their side, and unicorns and earth ponies don't have wings. Pegasus don't have similar wings either.

This raises the question. What would they do for a human who doesn't have a cutiemark?

 

Anon >>39014061

They can still paint a huge x on your ass if they want to.

Ow. That stung more than it should have.

 

Anon >>39014321

Tattoo their own cutie marks, all that bare skin is prime real estate

 

Never forget that you are valued and would be missed when you are gone, even by the rapist bat mares.

 

Me >>39014992 (Image I posted is #2250064 on Derpi- I mean commie booru)

Whoa, this is amazing! If only a little bittersweet with the spoiler. For the hidden sect looking to hold out until NMM returns, reproducing is held in high regard. It'd make sense that it would affect status and be displayed as so with piercings. With all the ideas here I may just need to fully fledge this story out.

It'd look like the mare in the picture with her wing piercings.

Yes, and it's inspiring me.

I wasn't so much thinking the same or tattoos. How about like a piercing? The herd would have a crest perhaps, or just the cutiemark of the most influential mare in it, made into an earring and pieced into his ear. I can see them doing this with their studs. That or the image put on some other jewelry like a necklace or slave collar.

 

Me >>39015396

I feel bad for not updating the greens for like a week, but I'll definitely make up for it on the weekend. In the meantime, let's please continue this really fun and intriguing theorizing on world-building and culture of these Bats in this setting.

 

Anon >>39015458

This is giving some very mixed signals

 

Anon >>39015480

Well of course they value you.

If they didnt you'd still be lost out there in the world, scared and alone without even a cutie mark to help you find your place.

Here in the tribe you're playing the very important role of bringing new life into the world and providing relief to the hardworking mares of your new family.

You might even be one of the privileged few to see Nightmare moon return and bless the world with a comforting blanket of starlight.

 

Anon >>39015673

What greens are you talking about?

 

Anon >>39015682

 

Anon >>39015725

See those three gold rings? We have three foals.

 

Anon >>39015910

Gives a whole new meaning to the term 'ringleader'

 

Anon >>39015933

Can I pick my rapist, or does the gang run train on me?

 

Anon >>39016137

If you're a good colt and go the extra mile for a particular mare i'm sure she'll claim you as her personal cuddle-colt.

 

Me >>39016232

This is exactly what the bat ponies would say. This is how they'd think.

Well, I was doing the Anon fighting back in the alley that I will return to eventually. The kidnapping story and the actual rape scene. Also a green in the Sunstone thread. I started them but I've been focusing one writing the one in the Luster Dawn thread.

Kek. Adorable but funny. 13 would be amazing. Quite the herd. But they'd see that they'd need to really work for it if they want to be the one you cum in.

Yes. Oc name is Platinum Wing. Marlowws has this incredible lewd of her. Drives me nuts to see Bat ponies and pegasi using their wings to spread their plot while riding you.

 

Anon >>39016250

I had a feeling you were all three.

Based as fuck writefag.

 

Anon >>39017630 (Hot bat mare with tongue image # appears to be 1045296)

Can I just say I am rather pleased and proud at the fact that MOST Bat Pony fan art depicts them with a long, prehensile tongue ending in a point? That is PRECISELY what I wanted, and knowing this fandom, I would've expended them to do the dumb, senseless thing and give them a 2-pointed snake tongue. ...sometimes they do do that actually BUT MOSTLY you guys adopted the cool sensible headcanon and I'm pleased about it.

 

Look at this oral tentacle, it is so versatile.

 

Anon >>39017718 (Prepare to have a new headcanon acquired. This is HOT)

REMINDER

 

 

 

“When we looked closer, we saw sinuses on the side of the tongue that basically fill up with blood,” Harper told me. “And when those sinuses fill up there are vessels in each hair which cause them to stiffen and become erect.”

 

Anon >>39017817

Sir you just enhanced both my bat and oral fetish a significant amount.

Not sure if i'm understanding the tongue thing though, is that a thing to enhance stimulation?

 

Because in the concept of rape /kidnappers, blowing their captives mind with a blowjob that no regular mare could ever compete with seems thematic.

 

Anon >>39017965 (Elaboration for why it's so damn HOT)

 

I assume you mean the tongue bristles? They are soft, and super small, being more concentrated at the tip. Certain groups of bat species have them especially vampyre and nectar-feeding ones. What they do is increase the tongue's surface area, so it licks up far more liquid than if they were absent. But they aren't idle as previously thought, it's not like mopping a floor dry. It's more like you trying to mop the floor dry and each of the mop's threads individually spread themselves out, reaching for as much surface area as possible. And when the tongue retracts, a greater volume of liquid is carried by it.

 

Sooo.....what does this mean for us? Well the bristles are not rough but are soft and velvety, and probably you wouldn't even be able to feel or notice the individual bristles as they caress the flesh. But PRESUMABLY they are physically more pleasant-feeling than normal, if only a little. Really the MAIN thing this means for us is that Bat Pony oral sex would be very wet. Their tongues get unordinarily drenched and just stay that way the whole time. This lack of friction means the tongue moves quite fluidly, and of course the lubrication means the one receiving oral is going to be lasting a long time before climax.

 

And boy if you thought all that was fun enough, consider this: Bat Ponies seem to pull largely from vampyres. I mean, the canon fruit bat ones in the show ARE vampyres, but I'm not talking about them. I'm just talking about how our standard fanon ones evoke them. That's the whole point of them having fangs, they are vaguely vampyric. Even if they don't die in sunlight etc.

CONSIDER however, if this is true and we are pulling from real vampyre bats here, well vampyre bats have special saliva, which does 2 things. 1) anticoagulant, which we don't care about, and 2) when vampyre bats lick the flesh of other animals it makes the spot numb, so they can't feel the penetrating fangs. TO BE CLEAR, not just numbing the interior wounds AFTER the fangs, but skin contact with their saliva makes the flesh numb BEFORE the fangs. So IN ADDITION to all that sexy stuff I just said, Bat Pony saliva would fill whatever part of your body it touches with a pleasurable tingling sensation, more intense tingles percolating with each and every lick. And if they scrape you with fangs a little bit and lick there, that wonderful bodily tingling will feel like it's inside you.

 

And that, my friends, is hot as fuck.

 

Me >>39018259

W-whoa. That's incredibly hot! This is gonna be one of those screenshot facts people post to the boorus isn't it? This has been a very fruitful thread, thank you Anon! Will add this to greens and future headcanons!

For nymphomaniac mares I can see how this would be useful in large rape gangs with only one victim, but I can see this also being counterproductive for bat ponies who need their victim to ejaculated in order to reproduce.

In tough calls like this I'd rather just leave it up to individual cutiemark talents so that we can have best of both worlds.

 

Anon >>39018818

Imagine the feeling when you finally bust a nut after that long.

The psychological effects would fuck you up a lot too if they planned it out a little.

Tribe takes turns sucking your dick, but only one mare ever lets you finish and she always cuddles you in your afterglow, whispering how important and valued you are.

You'd form an attachment pretty goddamn quickly even if you knew exactly what they were doing, nevermind the pavlovian responses you'd start developing.

 

Anon >>39019064

The phrase "sharp-tongued" also means someone who speaks in a harsh, curt, cynical or scathing way, which fits the flappy-batty-pones.

 

Anon >>39019072

Getting a lot of interesting euphemisms

 

Anon >>39019138

I'm a fag so I've tried edging before, I don't know if it's different for everyone but I never got this "desperation" meme. If I try to keep myself on edge it ends up just getting boring, sensitivity drops, eventually I even get sore. Finishing after that would always be very anti-climactic, just an "oh, finally" rather than any kind of earth-shattering release or whatever.

 

What does improve orgasms (again, at least for me) is denial, over a longer period. With or without edging (though edging does end up make me hornier). Fapping for the second time a day is guaranteed to be a downright boring affair compared to fapping after a week of abstinence. And edging a couple of times during that week will make me look forward to that release even more (though I honestly can't say it improves the orgasm).

But just edging continuously, "keeping myself on the edge of orgasm"? Disappointing and boring.

 

Then again I've heard of the practice of gooning and apparently people do it for some reason. I've not tried it, and given my above experience I don't see the appeal, but some seem to enjoy it so maybe it's just me? I dunno.

 

Anon >>39019347

That's the key really and the phrase is a bit of a misnomer, the trick is to keep brushing against the edge before easing off repeatedly, not staying constantly at 99%.

And magical pone bullshit would apparently let them suck your dick as much as they want, giving you enough of a pleasant sensation to keep you hard but never enough to reach climax.

Imagine it, you're strapped to a table in an isolated room and a succession of mares walk in and suck your dick all day, giving you sips of water and bread if you need it but otherwise just treating you as an object, a plaything, a communal salt lick.

Then along comes that special mare, YOUR mare, she'd climb on top of you and whisper sweet nothings as she nuzzles your neck and gives your ear a litle love bite.

You'd feel her softness on your chest and dick as she rubs herself against you, making sure you can feel every inch of her as she properly claims you from the others who simply wanted your dick.

This mare wants YOU, and she's not shy about it expressing it.

Reaching back with a hoof she'd maneuverer herself into position and swallow your well lubricated dick to the hilt with a single drop of her hips and a soft moan of satisfaction.

She'd wait a moment as she stares into your eyes, gently but firmly asking you to look at her if you try to look away, her internal muscles flexing and straining around your length.

And then she'd start properly riding you, resting her hooves against you for support as she rises up to expose your dick to the cold air before dropping down to envelop you once more.

You wouldn't feel much difference at first, the bat saliva from earlier still affecting you, but gradually you'd feel more and more sensation until you finally break through your drug induced limit and even further beyond that to your inevitable climax.

She'd continue riding you throughout your peak, moaning your name, praising how much you're filling her and how much of a good colt you are.

She'd stay and simply hold you for a while, feeding you pieces of fruit and sweet berries and gently petting you until you fall asleep.

 

And then you'd wake up the next day and go through all that again, for as long as it takes for you to be properly broken in as a stallion of the tribe, knowing your place as the tribes plaything in exchange for being the one stallion of YOUR mare.

Sure she might lend you out to her friends and you might even knock some of them up, but that's just fulfilling your role, and they wouldn't hold a candle to your new guiding star.

 

[spoiler]The fact i wrote this all off the cuff in the space of five minutes when I'm struggling to come up with answers to basic interview questions is probably the sign of an unholy amount of mental issues.[/spoiler]

 

Anon >>39019584

Nah it's fine. Bat ponies do that to you.

 

Anon >>39019587

That's just called inspiration, everyone finds it easier to do stuff they enjoy but has to put in way more effort to wrench out results for things they don't enjoy

 

Anon >>39022295

I want to be captured by a bat mare.

I will resist as much as she desires

 

Anon >>39022482

 

Me >>39026798

That's precisely why I've decided to ignore the sperg.

 

So let's get this back on track.

We've discussed a little bit about how bat ponies would conduct their business, choosing to scrape together enough males for the mares to continue to propagate the faction. What they'd do to you, and maybe even how you'd react. But we have discussed the actual offspring yet. What do you think a human's sperm would do to a bat pony egg? Would the fangs be more pronounced? The build be stronger and even stickier?

Then there's the actual racing of the foals. Something I plan to get to in the story. What do you Anons think it would be like. I have an idea but I'll save it I'm case no one wants spoilers.

 

Anon >>39027378

I guess the human influences would mostly translate into secondary features, like different coat colors, manes, etc. There's not much anatomical wise that the ponies could adapt without turning the foal into a chimera.

 

That does beg the question though, does it affect the bat ponies in hiding over the generations when they abduct non-bats for procreation? And what would they do when a bat mare foals, for example, a unicorn?

 

Anon >>39027411 (Another amazing contribution to a new headcanon here)

In terms of offspring, I think it'd made sense if batponies had some adaptation that prevented their dilution. Like having all the batpony genes be dominant. Batponies could even be the effect, rather than the cause: maybe they started off as some distinctly inequine monster far back in the past, but their modern distinctive features - the ears, eyes, wings, and subtle adaptations - were the only ones which were genetically dominant enough to remain after generations of interbreeding, while the pony genetics molded everything else over time.

 

As for Anon impregnation, this does raise the question of how that would even work. Are they some kind of ultra-compatible alien that can breed with literally anything? Being parasitic on some specific species (ponies) is one thing, being universally interbreedable is quite another. Or does magic need to help, in a typical AiE wish-fulfillment "I can magically impregnate my pony waifu because magic" fashion (except it's a bat waifu, and actually you're the husbando here)?

 

This would be 100% cultural depending on how your bat society works. If it's one broodstud serving a herd of mares as a seed dispenser, they'd probably mostly be single mothers. If you have one bat claim "ownership", maybe most would be single mothers except the lucky few who get to "claim" their stud and raise an actual family with him (while not interfering with his continuing impregnation duties, of course). Or maybe it could be a really weird kind of "family" with a herd of yandere bats around a captive "father" all living together. I dunno.

 

Anon >>39027448

I'm pretty sure the bat stallions would gather a couple of broodmares around them, having family constructs in which several mares have the same sire, but are not de facto single mothers since they all live close to another. The stud simply has several wives and lots of foals, and helps to raise all of them. As for captive breeders, that might work completely different.

 

Me >>39028078

True. I don't want a weird OC abomination for a foal. I just wanted to see if anyone else had any ideas for what could wind up translated.

 

Love it, that would prevent the dilution.

Genuinely love this! It's proof positive that bat ponies would be kinda twisted, as they're the result of sexually depraved ponies that subdued a species (or maybe multiple) into becoming merely a variant of the pony species just because they were at least slightly compatible with them. That's a pretty cool idea. Honestly way more original than "uh, they were the offspring of demons, blah."

What if the idea that they're able to breed with those other completely non-equine species isn't because the mares to begin with were incredibly compatible, but because the non-equine species itself was. And that's why we don't see them in existence anymore. They were fully assimilated. But the remnants of their versatility/ compatibility genetics-wise is partially present in the batponies. Perhaps that's why they'd be able to?

This could create an interesting dynamic of the batmares who nabbed Anon. It's a rare opportunity to follow in the footsteps of their older ancestors who took and tamed the other species.

 

Anon >>39028099

Yeah that's basically what I meant by ultra-compatible alien. They used to be whatever, then they bred with ponies and became ponies, keeping only a few unusual traits like their wings/eyes/etc. - and their alien breeding capabilities, so now they can also breed with humans just as easily.

The main issue I see with that is the danger that the human genes would then intermingle with pony ones. I don't want them to start becoming bathumans, or some kind of edgy humanoid vampire race. Though maybe if there's just one human, and he's only present for one generation, the way the alien compatibility works will prevent any drastic changes right away and instead they might get small adaptations? Which will be diluted again next generation, but now bats will have a tiny bit of anon genetics in them, alongside their original parasitic breeder genetics and the overwhelming amount of pony genetics.

That sounds kinda cool.

 

Me >>39028440

Yeah, as I expressed in the post above yours, I'd rather keep away from edgy OC stuff. I'd just like there to be more to the foals than a change of eye color. So he knows they're distinctly his without them being human. But I suppose if the answer was easy I wouldn't be asking for help with it.

I plan to introduce a more relatable bat Marr to help guide him through this knowledge for sure. So the readers can learn along with Anon how batponies work and what this means for him, etc. Like he'd be told that he got his herd mares/ captors pregangante but wouldn't believe it until he cam see it in the foals.

 

I don'tdo tf. It flies in the face of the spirit of all greens. What's the point of a human in equestria if he's not human. Sure there's arguments to be had but I'd rather not do that now. Nothing new will be said.

 

Anon >>39028771

While a story about a bat mare or a group of bat mares turning (you) into a bat stallion would be 210% my fetish, that's not really this threads remit.

 

 

I read in a short green once that a bat-foal via anon had an extra 'finger' (The little bone bit in the middle.) on both wings that she could manipulate, with mentions of her learning to write with them.

 

Me >>39029071 (Pic is of a bat wing x-ray with anatomical features labeled)

You're free to use the world building as a backdrop for your own fantasies then.

 

So it was not a finger, but an opposable digit composed of an extra bone? That sounds like it could work. Though not exactly that. Bat ponies already have clawed/horned protrusions from the wing's wrist in place of what is literally called a 'thumb' (pic rel).

What if I just make that digit more opposable than is usual, granting his foals an excellence in more meticulous talents? I figure that could work quite well. Thank you.

 

Anon >>39029701

Gosh it would be adorable raising bat foals, why must things be like this, I am saddened

 

Anon >>39030081

Looking at that picture it was described as another claw next to the thumb, so your idea is on the same wavelength.

 

Me >>39030216

It would. They'd be the light for me in the dark situation of the story I'll be writing here. I meant for it to be a one shot but here we go with another idea rich with opportunity and freshness. Oh dear...

 

Good! I'd like to do what I'm thinking of without blatantly ripping someone off. It'll serve a purpose for allowing the foals talent opportunities that would make them stand out. I love it.

 

Anon >>39030523 (Anon shares the archive of the green he was referencing, it has been posted here on Ponepaste titled Little Fru-Fru Has a batpony booty)

Found the little green i was half remembering

 

Me >>39031402

I love it! That's just the cutest shit ever!

Especially since I was already talking about how both dark and light palette bat ponies could exist as separate sects. I said I'd be tying that in, but I planned the lighter palette ones to be so much later in the story. But now I can make Anon's Foals these little cuties! Yes! It even helps for plot reasons later too.

Perfect

 

Anon >>39032396

I want to fug the bat mare.

Can i just like, join their cult or tribe whatever without getting kidnapped first.

I can bring snacks.

 

Anon >>39032496

Plot twist, the reason why bat mare rape is legal is because it is consensual. What actually happens is that someone who has a rape kink and who wants to be raped signs a contract, then afterward has all memory of asking to be raped erased. This way no one gets traumatized and both parties can have fun. And for the one being raped, it feels very real. The bat mare rapist also gets to enjoy the genuine reaction out of the 'victim' while being morally and legally blameless at the same time

 

I posted this on /vp/ by accident I hope no one noticed......

 

Me >>39033057

I'm afraid it's not so easy. They can't take any risks. You might be lucky enough to find a sympathizer among your new herd though.

 

Kek, maybe another story another time.

 

Anon >>39033363

Origin of vampire myth.

Some of them are able to taste impurities (illnesses) and sexual compatability from someones blood, tasting bitter or sweet depending on how bad or good the blood is.

Modern equestria uses this as the basis of standard blood tests, albiet using artificial means.

Bat rapist tribe / nightmare moon cult would take a more personal approach to the matter when checking the health of their members, or inducting new ones.

 

Anon >>39033828

Maybe, it could even work like a special talent to the few who do it.

 

Anon >>39033856

Neat.

I liked Journey's approach where batpony myths are basically just sensationalised legends due to their culture being very isolationist and thus very poorly known; and vampire myths came about because they have "wampyr" as a high military rank (and over time it got exaggerated into bloodsucking immortal fiends, maybe because of the fangs for example).

I'm a sucker for interesting worldbuilding, and explanations like these are great for grounding bats as a serious society while at the same time maintaining and air of mythical mystique around their existence.

 

Anon >>39033864

Darth Vulcan by RHJunior has some great worldbuilding on batponies and their mixing with vampire bats.

 

Me >>39034872

Despite it being a necessity to their culture, there'll still likely be some naive mares who would like a compliant stallion who they don't need to break. Will add one.

Also liked the idea of changelings messing with them. Neither can afford to rat one another out as they'll both be nuked.

 

Anon >>39035264

Now that could be an interesting idea.

 

Me >>39035810

Yeah, this would effectively mean skirmishes in the field and even on the inside with spies wouldn't be too rare.

On the other side of it, the bat ponies may not need mares and would be willing to trade them to the changelings, but the bat ponies could still adopt the mares as herdsisters and treat them like second class citizens/ slaves too. If only to guarantee that the colts they take could be used to raise even more stallions with her.

Batpony stallions would be far more valued and scooped up by the higher ranks, so it's not like they'd be explicitly wanting more regular pony stallions from this though. It's more like, "Johnny Appleseed can plant a thousand seeds, but an area of fertile dirt can only house one tree at a time."

 

Anon >>39037562

 

Something about there being an honest romantic couple in the midst of this rapist gang tickles my fancy.

 

Anon >>39037609

Sounds like a diamond in the rough.

 

Anon >>39037754

if I go to batrape equestria this will literally be me

 

Me >>39038302

I won't make Anon compliant but there will be a cutie who makes the ride more bearable.

 

Anon >>39044788

Even the rapey mares have cute names

 

Me >>39045437

Yes, even if they're little rapists, they deserve cute names

 

Anon >>39053460

It'd be 10 days of rape, then 10 months of being locked in a cellar, beaten, forgotten and starved.

 

Women don't like weak men.

 

Neither do men, for that matter.

 

Anon >>39053928

 

Even outside of "unf I wish bat mares would rape me", even should we assume they have zero sympathy and none of the bat mares feel the least bit of attraction and it's purely a utilitarian transactional business where the males are treated as semen dispensers and sex toys and nothing more - even then a docile guy will be objectively easier and more convenient. He'd probably be appreciated and liked, even if in totally detached terms, as an easier-to-user tool and nothing more. Or if they don't care and just apply standard restraining and captivity procedures anyway without care, then he's certainly not going to be discarded.

 

Anon >>39054472

 

Kek. All these anons wanting to get raped. But what about the opposite?

 

 

Me >>39055027

Got me jejjin

 

I dunno. For me it's the idea of a cute little equine a quarter/third of my size teaming up with others to force me to fuck her for the purpose of breeding. Especially if it's state sanctioned or something of the like.

I do also like having these adorable ponies submit to me as well, it's honestly both.

 

Anon >>39055233

Well I doubt NMM loyalist leftovers would be state sanctioned by Celestia. Or Luna for that matter.

 

Me >>39055766

Well, it is an idea for a setting wherein that is possible. Where Celestia understood that the male population was so much of an issue that she would back initiatives to pillage humans from earth for either the bat pony population alone, or equestria as a whole. So like, darker NMP. Or if NMM won, then she may just decide to make that a commonplace thing herself.

 

Anon >>39056871

I was actually imagining it more like gangs of anons going out to get raped.

I mean forming a rape gang is easy, they could do it anyway. The appeal of bat rape gangs is that they're out there to rape YOU. So you'd have anons going out as rapee gangs, so to speak. "Let's go get cuddled and fugged by a bunch of cute bat mares!" "Yeah, I heard sometimes they even kidnap you and keep you in the herd!" "Oh fuck can you imagine how much affection and cuddles you'd get? I hope the rumours are true. We're going out after dark today, witness me brothers."

 

Anon >>39056875

So, what do we wear to entice rapist bat mares to pick us?

 

Anon >>39057253

Something easily tearable and expensive looking.

If you're lucky they might even play a game of mugging you by asking for you to take it off, slowly.

Most would probably prefer to unwrap their presents themselves though.

Make sure to eat a lot of fruit before hand.

 

Anon >>39057257

 

Me >>39057766

Jesus, okay DAD.

 

Probably something that slightly conceals the neck. Flannel with collar maybe? Tease the mares and let them feel like the predator they want to be when pulling your shirt back to mark you.

Yes.

 

Anon >>39058709

 

Anon >>39061504 (Genius Anon responding to my mention of a green I forgot about and couldn't find)

If you find something in-progress you want to locate in the archives possibly years later, comment something unusual yet relevant to it or post something with a filename you're never going to change.

Teensie for instance, found this pretty much instantly.

 

Anon >>39062070

So, if you could have any batmare to rape and claim you, what would she be like? Colors, personality, etc?

 

Anon >>39062110

Likes to cuddle.

 

I have literally no other standard when it comes to bat mares.

 

Anon >>39062364

A heart of gold hidden behind the rape.

 

Anon >>39063436

I want her to keep me as genuinely valued and loved property. I want her to own me, mind body and soul, and play with me as she pleases as is her right - but I want her to own me not as one would own some replaceable cheap toy, but as one would own a unique, prized collectible, a truly high-quality toy, valued both for the prestige of owning it and also for its high quality and effectiveness during use.

I want her to claim me, to own me, I want to be owned by her and be the best toy I can be to rise up to her expectations. I want to be the rape-stud that brings her respect and prestige as the other bats admire how well she's trained me to serve, as well as how rare it is to have such an exotic stud.

 

Anon >>39063952

Your bat rapist proudly parading you around for her clan.

 

Anon >>39064100

Hot.

 

Anon >>39065110

Ad raping you while they do it?

 

Anon >>39066029

hey batty anons, look into installing an AI generator like Stable Diffusion. Im personally using the build /g/ recommends. but my point is to get into it now so when the pony model drops you will be ready with your prompts. Its what Ive been doing all day. Just saying. near infinite bat ponies ...

 

Me >>39068412

Yeah, my bad. It happened on the last day I was able to make content because I'm usually busy from the moment I wake up until 2AM on Fridays. Even the quick little bits I try to draft up don't go beyond a couple sentences.

 

So, big question. What would we call stories set in this genre of world-building? There's NMP, FR, RGM, etc. Any creative names so we can help identify stories using the groundwork we laid out here, or should we just go with "Bat Ponies are Demons"

 

/BPD/ has a somewhat acceptable sound to it. But it may be confused for Bi-Polar Depression.

 

Anon >>39068427

That's usually reserved for the man x mare general. I'm not sure if this one fits there though, as that general prompt usually does not include rape.

 

Me >>39068533

No, I wasn't suggesting we call it that (even if it can be used to build a darker version of it in an Equestria where NMM won upon her return). I was giving examples to see if that inspired something other than Batponies Are Demons.

Actually, I think I'll settle on that. /BAD/

 

Anon >>39068881

/BAR/ for Bats Are Rapists, unless the lore you're coming up with involves them being actual demons / demon descendant.

Which i could dig, succupone are very much in my interest.

 

Me >>39069084

Wait, now I have a hard choice.

OR

 

I'm leaning towards /BAR/

 

Anon >>39069088

This could be a comedy movie.

 

Anon >>39069313

I personally prefer the bat rape gangs idea.

 

Me >>39069762

Have a General copypasta drafted up for when I'm ready to return to this.

Bats Are Rapists

/BAR/ is the acronym for a genre of stories set in Equestria, where bat ponies have a history of/statistical inclination to force themselves upon males; this created a reputation so notorious that it spurs dialogue like "Despite being 17% of the population, thestrals..."

Foundational world building was crafted here >>38981126 (OP)

NOTE: Not all outcomes/stories have to be cruel/dark. You can use the premise for comedy, romance or SoL.

 

Bat ponies may even band together in roaming rape gangs to prey upon stallions. The story may instead occur in a pre-return of NMM Equestria, where NMM loyalist sects of thestrals hold out in a doomsday cult-like fashion in underground complexes, awaiting the day of prophecy. Kidnapping stallions from the surface to ensure descendents for the future, while exercising extreme caution/secrecy to avoid detection. This can include a grim future wherein NMM prevails upon her return, and sanctions the stealthy infiltration of Earth to kidnap men for her thestrals to breed in a twisted NMP to prevent them from provoking the larger day pony populace by preying on them instead. Or you can simply have it be that thestrals approach an Anon as a group in a "No-Go Zone" at night, and rape him there. The 'rape' can be realistic and brutal, wanted and ultimately just fetishized femdom elements, or merely just an intent that gets undermined for comedic purposes.

 

The conflict in the story may be:

 

Anon >>39070125

You fuckers make me want to write batrape greens and I am not sure how I feel about this.

I also don't know how to feel about the fact that I've been in this quest from the very beginning and now desperately want a batpony gf

 

Me >>39070231

Perhaps the desire was always there. We just made you aware of it.

Jokes aside, most threads can be made into fun discussions that give us something to play with, a setting to enjoy. All you need is a little creativity. I'm very proud that we all came together to hammer out some amazing stuff here. It's also just further evidence to me that I'm great at worldbuilding, and that I enjoy it a lot. So write what you want Anon. I'd love to read it and see how you play in the playground we created.

 

If it's the idea of the dark theme of rape that you regret, just do something light. Like my first green attempt where Anon is fighting them off in the alley. I plan to continue that as a comedy. I'll be using that post you responded to as a General Thread copypasta if I'm fine with it. We'll do some more of these threads later friend.

But if it's the idea that you'd want to write anything with this subject matter at all that's confused you, I understand and feel the same sometimes. It's funny in a way, isn't it?

 

Do you mean the thread, or from the start of the ride?

Either way, rest assured. We all want bat pony gfs.

 

Anon >>39070278

Thread yes. Or quest for rape-y bats

 

Me >>30970319

I think we're all desiring to have a rapey bat mare gf who is so eager to claim you that she doesn't quite take no for an answer.

 

Well, thanks for staying along for the ride Anon. The thread is almost over. Will you be there to join us next time? It might take a moment, but we'll be back to this.

 

Anon >>39070463

This sounds like it could be a great source for a story in itself.

 

Anon >>39070466

And here's to the bump limit.

Gentlemen, it was an honor to post with you.

 

Anon >>39070578

This thread going to get archived somewhere? I want to read through it all but I've been busy as hell in a miserable life without bat ponies raping me.

 

Anon >>39070595

Damn straight I will be. Just waiting for the >>new thread

 

Anon >>39070732

500 posts is the maximum amount of posts that can bump. We reached that limit and this is the thread's 505th post.

We're doomed to die any minute now

 

Anon >>39070794

I see thank you anon, see you in the next thread

 

Me >>39071381

Yes, glad you think so

Don't threads auto archive?

Sounds good.

 

Thank you all. Until next time...

 

-----------------------------------

 

And so Anons, the thread came to an end. In it's departure, it became clear that this was a topic Anons wanted more of. As such, we can look forward to this thread returning under the name /BAR/ when I'm ready.