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Born to Silly: a thread summary

By summaryanon
Created: 2024-11-20 22:02:32
Updated: 2024-12-07 12:55:30
Expiry: Never

  1. A paste for discussing the current orphanage happening.
  2.  
  3. >BRIEFED VERSION
  4. -A charity stream called "Ponies for Planned Parenthood" is organised and held on Twitch, raising ~1400$ for abortions.
  5. -A thread is posted about the happening on 4chan and /mlpol/, urging anons to make a charity art pack in response that'll support orphanages.
  6. -After intense debate on multiple threads, the following is more-or-less decided:
  7. --The new charity art pack shall be called "Born to Silly" (BtS);
  8. --The mascot of the art pack is Silly Stuffing, from a recent Make-an-OC thread;
  9. --The leader of the project is Wolvan;
  10. --Though the two initial threads didn't really come to a definitive deadline, the 3rd one declared in its OP that it is "February 13th, with a one week grace period", and no one has objected;
  11. --Art is posted on the thread(s), all organisation happens there;
  12. --Anchor Ridge has received near-unanimous support as the charity to be donated to, though some backups have been proposed as well;
  13. --The themes of family, life, and foalcare are guaranteed;
  14. --OCs that could be considered "problematic" by some (e.g. Aryanne, Luftkrieg, Anonfilly) are allowed;
  15. --AI is strictly not allowed;
  16. --NSFW is very strongly discouraged, overwhelming preference is for the pack to be SFW; however, should there be a follow-up pack/extras, NSFW should be allowed on it.
  17. Additionally, the question of a payment processor (and thus the price of the art pack) remains open.
  18. -At around the same time as the first thread, NaziHorseMolester and Patachu organise a Discord server to help organise the project.
  19. -Given the 4chan public's thoughts on Discord, this is met with harsh criticism and condemnation.
  20. -Twitter users find out about the Discord and the thread as a whole, and some attempt to go on raids (they fail).
  21. -Given how there is currently no leader, talks of recruiting a trusted namefag to lead the project begin, with Wolvan as a possible candidate.
  22. -A kindly anon creates a website for the project, and also starts hosting an archive of all the art published in the threads so far. He also creates a way to privately and anonymously upload images to the art archive.
  23. -An anon successfully contacts Wolvan and convinces him to get on board.
  24. -For the greater success of the project, NHM declares the disestablishment of the Discord and drops any claim to leadership, thus making Wolvan the undisputed leader.
  25. -John Elway, a mod of /mlpol/, publicly announces that he was recruited by NHM via DD to manage the money of the project, and seeks to have the support of the anons. (we are here)
  26.  
  27. ====================
  28.  
  29. >QnA (Questions and answers)
  30. >Who is in charge of the project?
  31. Currently, Wolvan. "Certain" other individuals have claimed leadership before, but they've all willingly dropped their claims.
  32. >I am an artist and I want to contribute art. Where do I do so?
  33. Current 4chan thread, as linked in the "LINKS" section of the paste. If that's not an option for one reason or another (e.g. the thread is down), there is still the /mlpol/ thread, also linked in the same section. If you do not want to publicly post the art, send it over to https://borntosilly.com/upload
  34. >Who makes all the decisions regarding the project, e.g. who decides that we donate to this and that charity, or that it'll cost this and that money?
  35. For now, whatever decision gets the most support from the anons on the thread passes. Anyone is free to propose and discuss them.
  36. >Is the project still going?
  37. Yes. Anyone who claims otherwise is, to put it bluntly, lying. It's tempting to call all of them offboarding Xitterites, but as one Greek philosopher said, don't attribute to malice what can attributed to stupidity (or something like that).
  38. >Is this an offboarder project?
  39. No. "Certain" individuals tried to take it offboard, they failed.
  40.  
  41. ====================
  42.  
  43. >CHRONOLOGY:
  44. All times are UTC unless stated otherwise.
  45. >PRE-4CHAN
  46. -[12th Nov 2024 18:57] A tweet is made this date by the artist Kettle Master, declaring the following:
  47. >THIS SUNDAY!! At 6pm UK time I'll be taking part in a charity stream organised by the people over at @DraftHorsesYT! Tiny horses will be drawn, naughty words will probably be said, "Eeyup"s may be heard! Come on, come all!
  48. Attached to this is an informational image giving more info: the charity stream would be called "Ponies for Planned Parenthood" (from here on out, PfPP), it would last ~8 hours, feature 20+ community artists (with a guest appearance of the voice actor of Big Mac, Peter New), and would mostly involve playing the game "Gartic Phone".
  49. -[from the above date until the beginning of the event] Various other participants share or repost similar statements, with the same image being used.
  50. -[13th Nov 2024 14:58] Timsplosion, an animator who the image credits as the one on whose Twitch channel the stream will be run, confirms this and writes:
  51. >You like ponies? You like access to reproductive health? You need some levity in these messy times while also doing good? [...] Let's raise some goddamn money.
  52. -[17th Nov 2024 16:07] Yet another post is made on Twitter, this time by the organisers (Draft Horses), reiterating much of what has already been said about the event.
  53. -[starting 17th Nov 2024 ~18:00 (~1PM EST), lasting for 07:59:08 hours/minutes/seconds] The charity stream happens as planned on the timsplosion channel.
  54. -[Nov 18th 2024 03:24] Timsplosion posts a short thread on Twitter, detailing how the stream received a hate raid at one point and stating that, as a consequence, no other event like this will be promoted on Twitter. Besides that, he also mentions intentions to private the Twitter accounts (an earlier tweet from 13th Nov stated that it will be done after a new episode of DH is uploaded, but he states here that it may happen sooner). The full text is given below:
  55. >Tonight's stream was a success - we raised $1355 for charity - but I think this is the last such event I promote on Twitter.
  56. >We had to deal with a hate raid, & I've blocked a dozen or so ppl on the DH Twitter account, knowing that they can still see everything.
  57. >Our mods dealt with it fantastically - you had to be transfixed on the chat to even know anything was happening - but it still leaves a bitter taste that we had to deal with that.
  58. >And only dealt with it as well as we did because someone tipped us off.
  59. >I'm probably going to private my account and the DH account sooner than I planned. If you're lucky you'll get a days notice. If I decide I'm done, it'll just happen.
  60. >You'll be able to find me. By now, you know where to look.
  61.  
  62. >EARLY 4CHAN THREAD
  63. -[18th Nov 2024 19:48:48] a thread is posted on 4chan labeled "PROJECT: HORSES FOR ORPHANAGE", urging anons to create a charity of their own to counter the PfPP's goals by raising money for orphanages via creating an artpack, citing Marenheit 451 as a direct inspiration.
  64. -[18th Nov 2024 19:58:15] One anon on the thread proposes using Snuggly Filly/Silly Stuffing, an OC from a recent make-an-OC thread, as the mascot for this new charity. (41657259)
  65. -[18th Nov 2024 20:12:43] An anon proposes that the new charity should "buy some horse plushies for kids". (41657296)
  66. -[18th Nov 2024 20:16:24] Another anon proposes the name "Ponies for Life" (from here on out, PfL). (41657303)
  67. -Anons start discussing what the art pack's themes should be. Some of the suggestions given (41657350, 41657403 and some others as well):
  68. >Pregnant mares
  69. >Foals being loved by their parents
  70. >Family photos (e.g. Twilight and her family on a vacation)
  71. >extended family and friends lending their support to parents, with the just recently pregnant dam thanking them profusely while in the trashcan an abortion certificate is visible
  72. >orphans getting adopted
  73. >mare-iage ceremonies strictly between mares and stallions
  74. >Nurse Redheart destroying the changeling pretending to be her [referring to the Nurse Redheart featured in the PfPP's promotional image] to kill ponies' foals
  75. >Princess Luna getting rid of foal abusers using her knowledge of foals's dreams
  76. >Cozy Christmas themed wholesome family
  77. -A particularly contested part of the art pack's themes is whether or not to have porn/clop, with no consensus reached (besides that foalcon should probably be avoided).
  78. -[18th Nov 2024 21:02:11] An anon proposes to delay the charity for Summer or longer, citing the state of the economy as the reason, whilst arguing that doing this will make for more money donated and an overall bigger event. (41657438)
  79. -[18th Nov 2024 21:21:50] A backup thread is made on /mlpol/.
  80. -[Nov 18th 2024 21:40] NaziHorseMolester and DarkDoomer (NHM and DD) organise a discord server to organise the art part of the art pack. As it's announced on Twitter, it initially doesn't get much traction.
  81. -[18th Nov 2024 22:19:31] An anon offers to write stories in relation to the PfL; first instance of writing being proposed. (41657606)
  82. -[18th Nov 2024 22:33:07] The first "suggestion" regarding what charity to donate to is posted, "arguing" for the Tennessee Children's Home Society. Alas, this is a troll post, as it was shut down ~74 years ago, and had been infamous for child trafficking, kidnapping, illegal adoption, ect. (41657644)
  83. -Anons discuss how much time there should be for the project, coming to a figure of ~1-1.5 months, as other art packs before have done (Marenheit included)
  84. -The question of what the themes of the art pack should be continues to be intensely debated, leading certain anons to state that there shouldn't even be pregnant mares in the art pack. This essentially splits the thread into two camps about this issue: the "puritans", who want a 100% SFW wholesome art pack, and the "perverts", who argue for the opposite. This is better understood as a spectrum of sorts, with many anons lying in the middle.
  85.  
  86. >START OF PROPER PLANNING
  87. -[19th Nov 2024 06:29:30] An anon (from here on out, OrganiserAnon) finally lays down the core things that this charity needs and other anons have been debating: a name, a date, quantity and type of content, and a price. (41658873)
  88. -Name proposals include given by anons include: Born to Silly (received the most support, proposed by OrganiserAnon himself), the aforementioned Ponies for Life (initially beaten, but started to grow in popularity after OrganiserAnon already declared Born to Silly as the name), SS (Silly Stuffing) Life Squad featuring Aryanne, Aryanne Hoofler's little SS unit (same meaning for SS, was proposed later), and Pony Parenthood Pack.
  89. -There are three main date proposals: New Years, first of June (on International Children's Day), or March 21st (International Mother's Day). International Women's Day, Christmas Eve, and Christmas are also proposed. After very intense back-and-forth, no consensus is reached, and instead OrganiserAnon considers splitting the art pack into two, one SFW and one NSFW, with the former coming out sooner, and also labeling March as the latest month possible, thus also proposing a solution to end the puritan-pervert debate (note that having too different art packs had been proposed earlier, but having them release at different times was not).
  90.  
  91. >TWITTER/DISCORD BULLSHIT
  92. -[19th Nov 2024 18:04] On the PfL Discord, NHM announces he'll be posting an invite to the Discord on 4chan in about an hour, and urges DD to get his friends on board as well.
  93. -[19th Nov 2024 18:57:59] The self-proclaimed OP of the thread (NaziHorseMolester) posts an invite to the PfL Discord server, and urges artist anons to join it. Though Born to Silly has achieved a majority support as the name for the charity, the server was made before said name was proposed, and is thus called Ponies for Life. This is met with great backlash by essentially everyone present, with several anons of the thread labeling NHM as an off-boarder. (41659822)
  94. -[19th Nov 2024 19:27] Amy New of the PfPP makes a Twitter post about this server.
  95. -The debates regarding the nature of the charity continue, this time on who to donate to. The Tim Tebow Foundation and Anchor Ridge are the two main contenders.
  96. -With Twitter now aware of the BtS and PfL projects, a few of theirs try infiltrating the thread and Discord. They fail.
  97. -[19th Nov 2024 22:00:55] The first art piece related to the BtS project gets posted on the thread (41660266)
  98. -[19th Nov 2024 ~22:09] The PfL Discord's general chat devolves into arguing about Christian topics. The idea channel fairs a little better.
  99. -Given how NHF doesn't (or at least didn't use to) have a trip, a slew of posts impersonating him get posted in a row (or, maybe it's just schizophrenia?)
  100.  
  101. >BACK TO THREAD
  102. -[19th Nov 2024 22:29:46] An anon argues these as the decisions for undecided topics: Anchor Ridge would be the charity, with the themes of "Families, life, foalcare", predominately SFW (though NSFW wouldn't be disallowed), and for all the images to be posted directly to the coming threads. (41660354)
  103. -Of course, anons still continue to debate the question of (N)SFW and that of a deadline (which neither this anon nor OrganiserAnon properly answered).
  104. -[20th Nov 2024 07:28:49] An anon (possibly OrganiserAnon himself?) asks what every anon plans to contribute (41661495). Some of anons' responses:
  105. >I plan on animating a sfw silly stuffing animation.
  106. >I'm going to draw motherly ponies playing with their foals.
  107. >Sfw art of Silly Stuffing
  108. >One or two sfw silly stuffing drawings
  109. >I'll contribute with a story about a pregnant mare or few.
  110. >I want to draw Pear Butter with the apple family.
  111. >I'll contribute whatever drawfaggotry I can muster.
  112. >Imma going to do SFW only, at least one drawing Silly Stuffing doing something wth Derpy and Dinky. And a second drawing but I'm not sure of what.
  113. >A good one would be Scootaloo adopted by Rainbow Dash and having sex with her. [yo, databytes, remember me? why didn't you mention me in your pseudo-"response" >:( ]
  114. >Luna babysitting foals and fillies.
  115. >I was thinking of something cute with Derpy and Dinky since we never see any type of "father" around with them Dinky could be an adoptee to Derpy or something along those lines with Derpy saying "You may not be mine but I am yours" something sappy I'll hammer it out as I wip up stuff and get an idea board going
  116. >Trying to draw a little appul and a big momma pear
  117. -The question of having a website starts being discussed.
  118. -[20th Nov 2024 20:14:45] An anon proposes to run said website. (41662511)
  119. -[21st Nov 2024 15:32:45] Another anon proposes to have the art pack include AI art; essentially no one agrees with this. (41664967)
  120. -[21st Nov 2024 20:37:50] Yet another anon says he can get hold of Wolvan (respected and trusted namefag who has helped organised many /mlp/ projects) to join the project if a leader is still needed (which is indeed the case). (41665388)
  121.  
  122. >SECOND THREAD
  123. -[21st Nov 2024 19:39:02] A new thread is created by NHM, as the previous had reached the bump limit.
  124. -For the first two hours of the new thread, (and, in a way, somewhat up to now) what happens is essentially endless debate regarding everything about the project, from the leadership (as practically no one on the 4chan thread wants to have NHM as the head) to the very question of whether the project has already failed (>inb4 offboarder sent by Amy New).
  125. -[21st Nov 2024 21:31:19] An anon finally, at least for a brief time, manages to partially restore order, laying down the his prepositions for all the debated aspects of the project, and urging artists to not post anything until a proper project lead takes the helm. (41665981)
  126. -[21st Nov 2024 22:18:03] A kindly anon does as promised before and creates a website for the project. (41666115)
  127. -Some artists, despite the still somewhat-chaotic situation of the thread, start uploading their finished art and sketches to the thread.
  128. -[21st Nov 2024 23:48:37] An anon asks the question of whether futa will be included - the unanimous agreement is no. (41666362)
  129. -[22nd Nov 2024 17:46:25] The website anon starts hosting an archive of all art posted on the thread(s) so far until a better replacement is found (e.g. a MEGA folder). (41668292)
  130. -[22nd Nov 2024 17:58:57] On the /mlpol/ thread, an anon offers some other charities that can be potentially donated to: Angela’s house, Ronald McDonald house, and also Shriners Hospital. Another anon also proposes St. Judes. (25147 and 25148)
  131. -[22nd Nov 2024 23:37:09] An anon organises a poll on whether or not NHM should be part of the organisation team. Despite an initial landslide 8 against - 1 motherless - 0 for vote, after a while, the poll "mysteriously" suddenly shifts to 21 against - 8 motherless - 35 for, and currently sits at 26 against - 8 motherless - 47 for (HMMMM, no rigging here!). (41669340)
  132. -[23rd Nov 2024 09:51:00] The website anon updates the art archive with all (AFAIK) missing pics as of that time. (41670977)
  133. -The rest of the 4chan thread is essentially spent debating leadership to no avail.
  134.  
  135. >THIRD THREAD
  136. -[24th Nov 2024 03:43:23] New thread is created after the previous one reaches the bump limit. Its OP declares opposition to the Discord and provides a summary of the decisions taken in the thread, though some of them are more akin to the OP's personal preferences (e.g. the deadline remained undecided by that time).
  137. -[24th Nov 2024 15:40:28] The website gets updated with a way for artists to anonymously and privately upload their art to be added to the archive. (41674316)
  138. -[Starting 24th Nov 2024 14:14:29] An anon starts aggregating anons' opinions regarding questions seemingly left unanswered: the pricing, whether NSFW content should be allowed, the question of "problematic" OCs (Aryanne and the like), AI, and which charity to donate to charity (41674166). The following has so far been seemingly decided:
  139. --The charity is near-unanimously voted and reaffirmed to be Anchor Ridge, and little is spoken of backups, which remain as they were before;
  140. --AI is reaffirmed to be not allowed;
  141. --"Problemetic" OCs get a pass by essentially everyone who voted;
  142. --NSFW receives less support than in the first thread: many anons vote against it (though not with as much confidence as, say, the vote on AI), those who don't still argue for SFW to be prioritised or for specific NSFW themes to be restricted (generally, the more fetishistic it is, the more an anon would be against it, and vice versa for wholesome ones).
  143. -[24th Nov 2024 18:02:11] An anon points out how, in order to figure out the pricing of the art pack, the thread must first pick a payment processor. (41674677)
  144. -[24th Nov 2024 19:19:11] An anon says he can take hold of Wolvan; unlike the other anons before him, however, he actually does. (41674897)
  145. -[24th Nov 2024 20:40] NHM announces on the Discord server that he will delete it and drop his claim to leadership which had caused so much trouble before.
  146. -[25th Nov 2024 08:17:54] John Elway, a mod of /mlpol/, publicly announces that he was recruited by NHM (before he let go of his claim of leadership, of course) via DD to manage the money of the project, and seeks to have the support of the anons. (25186)
  147.  
  148. >FOURTH THREAD
  149. -[6th Dec 2024 01:27:10] New thread is created after the previous one reaches the bump limit.
  150.  
  151. ====================
  152.  
  153. >LINKS
  154. >WEBSITE
  155. Place to privately send art to: https://borntosilly.com/upload
  156. >DISCUSSION
  157. Current 4chan thread (main place for organising the project and posting art): https://boards.4chan.org/mlp/thread/41706300
  158. /mlpol/ backup thread: https://mlpol.net/sp/25095
  159. The Xitter front:
  160. >ARCHIVES
  161. Poll regarding whether NHM should be part of the organisation team: https://poll.horse/zQswGHz6/r
  162. For the sake of centralising all the activity relating to the project in the 4chan thread(s), the invite to the PfL D*scord was not hosted here. Now that the Discord has been disolved, here are all the chat logs:
  163. (Or, if you prefer MEGA: https://mega.nz/folder/cLQ3HYKI#bZCbUq1Tj0-TG0s6HDutiA password is Chrysalisisbestpony)
  164. (Small note: there also used to be a roles channel, it wasn't archived, but it just allowed artist to self-ascribe a "drawfag" role, there was nothing more to it)
  165.  
  166. ====================
  167.  
  168. >ART
  169. NB: by no means comprehensive, see the archive.zip on the website for that.
  170. >Finished
  171. I love Silly (Silly Stuffing) (also serves as the second thread's OP image): https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/mlp/image/1732/15/1732150286212.png
  172. >WIPs, past WIPs, or otherwise sketches
  173. Born to Silly (by Snobtavia, without the proper eyes): https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/mlp/image/1732/47/1732473465551.png
  174. Born to Silly (by DD, colourless sketch): https://pomf2.lain.la/f/ytle8wnh.png
  175. Born to Silly (by DD, no subtitle, slightly darker): https://pomf2.lain.la/f/gubk62j0.webp
  176. >Uncertain belonging (I'm not that good at searching for images in the archive(s), this/these may have been posted beforehand)
  177.  
  178. ====================
  179.  
  180. >PEOPLE
  181. >Timsplosion
  182. Organiser and host of the Ponies for Planned Parenthood charity stream.
  183. >Amy New
  184. A Twitter artist that has gotten into conflict with /mlp/ for various reasons, the biggest one being her unsuccessful attempt to "cancel" Mare Fair. In relation to this project, she took part in the PfPP and reacted most aggressively to our own project, posting about it on X causing raids to occur.
  185. >Peter New
  186. Voice actor who voiced Big Mac in the official My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic (Generation 4) TV show that aired 2010-2019, firstly on the Hub. Was a special guest at the PfPP
  187. >NaziHorseMolester (NHM)
  188. The OP of the first and second BtS threads; also created the PfL Discord server and linked it in the 4chan thread, which caused mass discontent on the 4chan threads, especially the second one. Tried to claim the position of the leader of the project for some time, which only lead to endless arguing and derailing, and thus he finally willingly renounced it on November 24th.
  189. >Diamond Tiara (DT)
  190. Artist, part of the PfL Discord server, got into some drama before and during the project. The most relevant one to what is discussed here is a conflict between him and Patachu during that occurred on the PfL Discord's last days.
  191. >DarkDoomer/Patachu/Silver (DD or Pata)
  192. Another artist, also part of the PfL Discord server. Got into a conflict with DT (see above). Helped NHM get into contact with various artists and John Elway. Drew an image that served as the OP pic for the second thread.
  193. >Wolvan
  194. Trusted namefag who helped organise various /mlp/ projects, Marenheit and the Winter Wrap Pack (last proper /mlp/ art pack to be organised) among them, thus becoming the prime-candidate for the leadership of the project and eventually agreeing to lead it on November 24.
  195. >John Elway
  196. Mod of /mlpol/ who was recruited by NHM via DD to manage the money of the project. Seeks the support of anons.
  197. >Summaryanon
  198. The one who runs this summary, i.e. me.
  199. >Website Anon
  200. Self explanatory: used to refer to the anon who runs borntosilly.com.
  201. >"OrganiserAnon"
  202. Used in this paste to refer to the anon who first got the thread to discuss things in a more-or-less organised manner. Came up with the name "Born to Silly", also tried to get anons to decide the deadline of the project.
  203.  
  204. >GROUPS, ORGANISATIONS, AND ECT.
  205. >Draft Horses
  206. An art show led by Timsplosion whose members (or at least some of them) took part in the PfPP.
  207. >Ponies for Planned Parenthood (PfPP)
  208. A charity stream that raised ~1400$ for Planned Parenthood.
  209. >Planned Parenthood
  210. "The largest single provider of reproductive health services and the largest single provider of abortions in the United States". Has a Wikipedia page, from which this quote is taken, see it for more details.
  211. >PROJECT: HORSES FOR ORPHANAGE
  212. Codename for the project that was given in the initial thread's OP post.
  213. >Ponies for Life (PfL)
  214. First name proposal for the project. Also the name of the once-active Discord that was ran by NHM, but ultimately got deleted.
  215. >Born to Silly (BtS)
  216. Current name of the project.
  217.  
  218. ====================
  219.  
  220. To do:
  221. ~170 posts on the in the initial thread have been deleted, alongside an additional ~200 on the second one, yet nothing is said of them; mention them at the relevant sections
  222. Perhaps talk more about the activities of the PfL D*scord (not like it makes much difference now that it's ded)
  223. Do the archiveful and have the relevant tweets of the PfPP gang (in case they try making shit private) be properly archived.
  224. Art is being posted, yet quite a lot of it is not linked here. Link to more of it, credit artists when possible, maybe make a separate section for other relevant images as well (whatever that may entail). Also, possibly switch from Desuarchive to another host for the images, e.g. pomf or catbox.
  225. Various images that aren't exactly art, but are still relevant, are not linked (e.g. edits of pre-existing images, screenshots); create a separate section for them.
  226. Two short-lived splinter threads between 2nd and 3rd one, mention something.

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